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    Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by sliver on Fri 24 Jun 2011, 2:18 pm

    shading adds 'weight' to a kit and for people without airbrush (like me) always wonder how can we get similar effect if we have no airbrush
    (disclaimer: its an alternative to using ab but imho, using ab to do shading is the right way to go)

    did some illustrations of how to do 'shading'

    tamiya weathering master is what i am using currently


    after you have painted your parts, prior to topcoating, u can apply the weathering master.

    for planar transition


    for internal lining (panel lines)


    final result


    another piece of part tat i have done using the weathering master


    things to note:
    1) after u have achieved your desired shading effect, always remember to topcoat the surface to 'lock in' the weathering master.

    2) if halfway thru the 'shading', u find that the 'shading' is 'out of line', can use a moist cloth to wipe away the weathering master. but pls wait for the parts to dry completely before u proceed to apply the 'shading' again.

    3) tamiya weathering master might change color after u applied the topcoat so my sense is you should always try out one sample using the runners to do the 'shading' first.

    lastly, if really wan to hav very nice shading effect, my take is to use a ab, only use my suggestion if u hav no ab.
    hope it helps for those pple with no ab

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by 焱刀良 on Fri 24 Jun 2011, 3:04 pm

    very good alternative to non-airbrush users!

    thnx for the tutorial bro..


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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by DarthYuy on Fri 24 Jun 2011, 4:07 pm

    Thank you spray can Shifu~

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by Astray on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 2:03 am

    Hey, thanks for the tutorial.
    Mind asking, I heard from someone that if yoiu topcard after applying the weathering, the powder will melt or drop off, do you encounter this problem?

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by sliver on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 7:19 am

    Hi astray,

    Kindly see point 3 of my 'things to note'.
    I hav been trying my method on a few kits n so far no issue of melting nor dropping off. As I hav mentioned, if in doubt, do try it out on unwanted runners/disposable plastic spoons first. if melting really happens then at least yr kit is safe?

    In addition, prior to topcoat, I suppose a matt surface will allow e weathering master powder to 'stick' better compared to a gloss surface. Imagine using a ballpoint pen to write on paper compared to writing on a glass surface.

    Perhaps any bros here can share their input with regards to powder melting/dropping off after topcoating?

    again, my method might not b e best alternative to ab n if in doubt, do try in a runner first to avoid any accident on yr kits.


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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by Lunarken on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 11:15 am

    whats the diff between this mehod n this?

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by 焱刀良 on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 11:23 am

    sliver's method is using the Tamiya weathering kit.. something like ur wife/gf doing makeup...the video u posted is dry-brushing..which involves using acrylics paints..
    sliver is doing shading using the kit...whereas the dry-brushing is something like paint-chipping..


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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by Lunarken on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 11:26 am

    焱刀良 wrote:sliver's method is using the Tamiya weathering kit.. something like ur wife/gf doing makeup...the video u posted is dry-brushing..which involves using acrylics paints..
    sliver is doing shading using the kit...whereas the dry-brushing is something like paint-chipping..
    both can achieve the same result? which method is cheaper? i guess both needs to have a clear coat after that.

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by Spector1986 on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 11:26 am

    Hi Lunaken.. The method featured in the video is called dry brushing.. A method modelers use to do paint chipping effects or other detailing.. The method sliver showed us is actually heavy shading on the kit.. Hope this helps..


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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by Lunarken on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 11:28 am

    Spector1986 wrote:Hi Lunaken.. The method featured in the video is called dry brushing.. A method modelers use to do paint chipping effects or other detailing.. The method sliver showed us is actually heavy shading on the kit.. Hope this helps..

    mmm... think i get what u mean, silver's method is just shading, whereas the video is more to detailing...

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by Spector1986 on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 11:36 am

    Ok.. Actually shading is also classified as detailing:) just a different method..
    Dry brushing is used to achieve paint chipping effect like the picture below.. Hopefully u can see the diff.. the paint chip is at the shield n many other area..


    picture credits to Alexmcqueen


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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by Lunarken on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 11:39 am

    ok, thanx man. is Black the best color to do shading? Silver's last pic the gundam's legs, red n white shading is done by black?

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by sliver on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 11:46 am

    for e feet,
    the white are complemented w grey shading
    the red are complemented w black shading

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by Lunarken on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 11:50 am

    sliver wrote:for e feet,
    the white are complemented w grey shading
    the red are complemented w black shading
    wow.. like that have 2 buy 2 sets of weathering master... how much does 1 cost... and the clear coat.S$

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by Spector1986 on Sat 25 Jun 2011, 11:57 am

    Actually Grey would be a better option for shading to achieve a better blending in of colour..
    like this..

    grey is a better colour.. black is too dark.. but suitable for darker colours like blue..

    Alternatively.. u can use orange on yellow too...

    however.. all these are done with airbrushing.. but u can try using the tamiya weathering master Smile
    Good luck..


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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by Lunarken on Wed 27 Jul 2011, 4:21 pm

    how much is 1 tamiya weathering master set? later i go suntec hobby shop c..

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by sliver on Wed 27 Jul 2011, 4:47 pm

    Iirc, mws selling for 10 bucks.


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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by tridious on Tue 09 Aug 2011, 7:52 pm

    hi..just to share...i tried the same method after searching the web of how to shade without using AB..the diff is i used colour pastels instead of tamiya weathering master..which cost abt $1 or less per stick (if i remember correctly)..

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by sliver on Tue 09 Aug 2011, 8:20 pm

    Neat!

    Mayb u can do a simple step by step tutorial to share w us here? I.e. Wat brush u using, how much color pastels u using per application etc? Anything to take note of during application etc..


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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by tridious on Tue 09 Aug 2011, 9:47 pm

    hmm...basically i followed ur instructions...lol..but i realised that applying the shading after a light coat of flat coat is much easier..(since its rougher)
    i used an unwanted make-up brush (i've seen daiso selling them for cheap)
    the extra step is to sand down the pastel to get the fine particles..

    the pastel and brush

    the results

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by Xeon^~^ on Fri 25 Nov 2011, 12:05 am

    what wheathering set did u use for your genoace custom?

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by hoyouken on Sat 10 Mar 2012, 1:28 pm

    A bit confused here on the sequence when you apply the water decals if doing the weathering master shading?
    Coz it is recommend we do a gloss coat then add water decals but flat coat more compatiable with weathering master?

    So we add water decals first before shading or shading then water decals? I using spray cans.

    I was thinking like
    paint -> gloss coat-> water decal-> flat coat (better catching the powder?) -> shading -> flat coat again

    Is the above the recommended sequence or is there a better way to go about doing this? Question

    Hope my question is not too confusing.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by sliver on Sat 10 Mar 2012, 2:34 pm

    Think its up to individual..

    Personal preference, I shade then decal then panel


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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by hoyouken on Sat 10 Mar 2012, 3:26 pm

    sliver wrote:Think its up to individual..

    Personal preference, I shade then decal then panel

    So in between shade, decal and panel you dont add top coat? You finish all these 3 tasks then topcoat? I agreed with you regarding personal preference but just want to see what's everyone workflow like.

    Thanks again for this tutorial.

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    Re: Alternative shading without airbrush (try at own risk)

    Post by sliver on Sat 10 Mar 2012, 3:53 pm

    Inbetw I will still topcoat Smile

    Personally,
    1)After weathering master 'shade', mist topcoat cos can lock in e 'shade'

    2)Before decal, gloss topcoat to allow e decal to hav a more even surface to adhere to
    After decal I will oso topcoat. After decal I will topcoat to protect e decals fr minor scrayches as well as to prep e surface for enamel panel

    3) end off w your desired coat to achieve yr target surface finish

    Not sure how other pple do it though




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